I listened to the banker, should have passed.

alleyyooper

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I have been needing a loader tractor with a non trip rod for the bucket. I also wanted some thing diesel so it should be easier on fuel.
I knew what ever I found was not going to be in the range of my current tractors 1938 to 1965, the 65 is a gas guzzler and is going to fund the new loader tractor.

Found a 1979 Allis 175 Diesel in great shape with decent tires and a front loader not all bent up and leaking fluids. Problems arose when the banker I live with said it was to big and costly per the year. Isn't any more HP than the 65 model that is going to fund a bunch of the new tractors cost. Even the physical size isn't any bigger. Ya but those size tractors require bigger parts when they break so are more costly buy IE to own.
OK Banker I will pass but know it is a mistake. Just what do you suggest?

Banker says a new cut tractor, so the search began. I refused to get any thing below 30HP will let the banker use a shovel and wheel borrow before I go below that size. New Holland was first because I was at the dealer to get a pricy part for the 65. They have the same basic tractor 33HP one called a boomer and one a work master. Dealer couldn't really explain the difference other than a few thousand dollars. Didn't have one in stock that was gear and had R1 tires so would be a couple months to get one if I wanted one and was set on the price. Sold Kubota's but turned up his nose when I inquired on the price. Just said I would not be as happy with it as I would a New Holland. Found out later he wouldn't make as much off the Kubota as he would the NH.

Next was a Branson dealer who I had thought sold a KTM or some thing like that but he had dropped that brand. Only had one tractor in stock a 33HP model he used as a demonstrator he said, but wouldn't even start it. Had a brush hog mounted and I picked several branches off the tractor with 2 inch thorns. Didn't have R1 tires on it had R4's, Buy the tractor and when I get a set of R1 tires in we will swap them out if you don't scuff them. Seemed rather put out when I said I was not going to do any thing of the sort it would have tires i wanted or I would not buy.
Banker also was not to thrilled with the dealer either.

Next was a Massey Ferguson / NH dealer. He starts off that I would not be happy with the Massey just so many things it didn't do that the NH did but again several thousand dollars more for the NH. Also again he would not even start any of them. Didn't have a NH with R1 tires either and then the HP went from 33 to 35 for the new models and I would have to wait for a new one to come in and they were several thousand more because of the bigger HP.
Banker was scratching her head as we left.
I decided I could probably swing the 175 Allis with out the banker once I sold the 65.

Comeing home from a car show we drove buy a Case IH dealer, decided to go back on Monday and see what they were costing. Talk about sticker shock for a horriable thought out machine Farmall. $25,000 for a 25HP machine the controls for the front loader was OK and the valveing hung nearly to the ground under the machine. I would have had that ripped off on the second day.

Again the Allis 175 is looking better.

OH there is a Kubota dealer and stand alone dealer. We stop and look at a few of the tractors he has setting in the lot out front. Go in and tell him what I am looking for and he takes us out to see a 33HP machine with R1 tires but no front loader, not to worry we have a shed full of them and shows us the shed full. Some how it get to where I am from and I tell him so he gets to talking about people I know real well as he is figureing up the money.
Sounds pretty good but we only have the pricy NH and the used Broson to compair to. We leave and talk about it on the way home. Banker really liked the dealer says nices one we have met turn around. we tell the dealer he has sold the 33HP with R1 tires and front loader.

Tuesday we sign the papers and place a worldly amount down after they give us the tour of the tractor . Agreed tractor will be delivered Friday after the tires are filled with beet juice (Rim Guard) and loader mounted. Problem we also need to wait for a pinned loader from another dealer.

Friday morning at 9:45 the dealers delivery man backed the trailer and truck into our drive and unloads the tractor and goes over the to loaders operation, we had went over the tractor on Tuesday before the Banker left the worldly amount of money with them. It came with a quick detach bucket because they couldn't get the pinned bucket in time for delivery and the extra cost was dealer ate.

So now the banker doesn't have to use the shovel and wheel borrow to build more flower beds. I can sell off the 65 and pay the banker back part of the worldly amount of money.

First chore for the new Kubota was rescue the 65 I had ran out of gas and wouldn't start even though I put 5 gallons in it. Did that well with the banker driving it, good thing we have not had rain in a while or the grass would have grown about a foot in the amount of time it took as the banker was going so slow.












I bounced a ugly off the hood Saturday afternoon so it is mine now as the dent is identifiable. Sunday morning with the fire wood trailer in tow I got it stuck in the creek but was able to get it out with a chain and Trac Lock.

The seat safety switch tricked me off so I stopped useing it till I could fix it. Made a finger to hold the switch in run and mounted it last evening. Also got rid of the joke they called a tool box, I have old lunch boxes that are bigger. Got a real tool box and made brackets to mount it yesterday. Paint on those brackets should be dry this morning so will mount the box today. Now I will be able to carry a couple of clevises, a couple of spare chain saw chains, wrenches to change them out along with a couple of bottles of water and a sandwich or two even.

:D Al
 

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that seat switch was so bad that I was turning to look at the log I as skidding and the tractor quit. Scratching my head I restart it don't go far and that stupid tractor quit again , WHAT. On the third quit I decided it was the seat switch so I got off and looked at it. Hardly any contact so I made up my mind I wasn't going to deal with that any longer and would fix it.

Needs a tiny adjustment but works. I can even stand up to see the front loader better when trying to scoop up some dirt.




Kubota put this little box on it and called it a tool box. I have lunch boxes bigger and some pill boxes just a little smaller, seen just to the right of th SMV placard.







Got a tool box and the color matches a little even. cut some brackets for the inside and outside. I do have to modify the SMV placard some, but that isn't a big deal.



I put two of these hooks on, one to each bracket to hang things on one of which it the draw bar for thr 3 PT.




Draw bar hanging on hooks.



As you can see the latches are tight with the ROPS bar folded down. I will make some pull tabs for those latches.



:D Al
 
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Thought I would share my chain saw scabbard I mounted on the ROPS. I have a second one for the other side but not mounted yet. It is made out of some scrap T 1-11. I want to apply some fence and deck stain to both before I mount the second one. Now I can carry my J red on one side and a big Husky on the other.





The Echo CS400 slides into part of ther loader mounting. the Polan slides in the same area on the other side so I can carry four saws at once to the woods out of ther trailer and bucket.





:D Al
 

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Coming up on one year of owning it. It is a love hate relationship. Still the Allis I think would have fit my needs better.
Would have saved a ton of money also, More HP , easier on and off, more stable wheel stance, easier to add wheel weights for less money amd more.



:D Al
 

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Looks about the same size Kabota I use at work. It's useful, for sure, but definitely has it's limits. Can't say that there's anything heavy duty about the one we have. Looks like yours may have less plastic trim. That's a good thing. The one I use has a four post roll cage with a canopy top. The front posts really help with getting on and off the tractor. They've had to have some repairs done, over the last few years, but nothing terrible. I guess my most negative criticism of these tractors would be the instability. Watch out raising that bucket very high with a load.
 

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Well if you'd have gotten that 175 buried in the creek I'm thinking you might still be there. In the years I've been using loader tractors I've come to the conclusion that they don't make a "one size fits all situations" machine. I'm now running a 25 hp Mitsubishi and a 16 hp Bolens. The 40 hp Ford is at the Son's place. The open platform on the Mitsubishi makes it my favorite yard tractor. The Trac-hoe does the heavy lifting.
If your logging with the Kubota it might be a little small but sometimes that works good in the woods for maneuvering around. The 4x4 and power steering is a huge plus for your application.
From What I'm reading elsewhere NH is not doing a good job of backing their warranty so you probably made a good choice. Nice job on the tool box and chainsaw holders.
 
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If you go out in the woods with four chainsaws, what do you bring with if you're going hunting?

Do trees grow faster there?

Have you angered a horde of beavers?

Was there a tornado in the nearest forest and everything got deposited on your land?
 

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If you go out in the woods with four chainsaws, what do you bring with if you're going hunting?

Do trees grow faster there?

Have you angered a horde of beavers?

Was there a tornado in the nearest forest and everything got deposited on your land?
I love it. :)
 

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Well if you take 4 saws, 2 big ones for blocking and a medium one for blocking and limbing and a little one for limbing.
When the chain gets dull on a big one you just change saws not need to stop and sharpen the chain. If the second big one gets dull you use the medium one so you don't have to sharpen a chain. the little one is th ahandiest one for limbing and noodleing a round enough a wedge will split it to handling size.

After a bit set down on a stump and change chains on the saws taking a break. Drink a good bit of water to rehydrate while your doing it. Then get off your duff and get back to work.

Back at the ranch take all the chains and sharpen them for ther next day. then you can go in and relax with a supper knowing you put in a good day cutting fire wood.


Also I have a good bit of experince cutting my fire wood but some times the tree wasn't read right and the saw gets pinched. with a second or even third saw handy no need to panic. Just cut the pinched one out with another saw.

:D Al
 

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Happened to me last week.
Am nearing the end of my EAB dead Ash trees. Was dry this summer for a very long time so I was able to get into some on the place we bought where it generaly stays wet.

Yesterday one of those dead Ash trees got me. It was surrounded by some decent elm trees as I did the walk around trying to decide if it had a lean to it. I decided it had a slight lean to the south so cut my notch. when to the oppsite side and started cutting. Didn't go in far and it cracked and pinched the bar.

I had been about to remove the saw and use the sledge and wedge to make it go. Notch was to big to use the wedge on that side. Only one thing left to do at that point, get the Jred and cut a new notch above the stuck saw then cut on the back side of that notch and remove my stuck saw.

Every thing came out as planed that time. I have 2 left in that area to take out and about another 10 to 12 left total in the woods.

Once those are gone I will start removing all the Elm. Elm gets to about 10 inches then dies. I see no reason to take out Maples and Oaks when there is about 6 years of elm that is fire wood size.

I have a bunch of Ash seedlings about knee high be intresting to see if I live so long if the EAB come back once they get some size to them.







:D. Al
 

alleyyooper

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The seat on my Bota has perment pleats in the seat from pucker power of the rear thru jeans and heavy bibs.

I was lucky and got ag tires so I could spread the wheel space from about 55 inches to 63 1/2 inches with out spacers.
Now it is better but still has made me pucker up and squeeze the seat.

I ofter wonder if I bought a 3 wheeler. Have never owned a tractor that has spent so much time on 2 front and one rear.


:D Al
 

Cvans

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Narrow front loader tractors are a death wish. I've bailed off of two of them as they went over. The first time I had large bruises on the tops of my legs where they hit the steering wheel. The second time I was more graceful. First was on an "M" Farmall and the second was an "H". No more narrow fronts for me.
I think the rule is to keep the load below the hood of the tractor when traveling.
 

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My marriage must be strange. I manage the cash flow unless it's a large purchase then we talk about it. She'd probably divorce me if she knew how much I spend...
 

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Thankfully we are for the most part on the same page as far as spending goes. We are enjoying our children's inheritance. ;)
 
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