What's Happening?

There are enough idiots in all generations. Every generation has its bell curve of people, some dimwits, a large average majority and some high flyers. Millennial's are no different, some/many just come from the privilege of having their parents do everything for them...then the parents generation complain about it. Who is really at fault here???

If someone has a dumb/bad dog, it's easy and correct to blame the owner/trainer. Kids are different, parents can't take the bad news that they screwed up.
 
adamjd200 said:
Exactly, I fall into the millennial category as well, seems like usual the idiots get all the attention.
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So so happy to hear from young people who are interested in the old iron hobby. And I understand those in the 20 to 40 and 50s not having the time. I could not either when I was raising a family and that is much more important. I did not get into collecting Rototillers until my kids were all but through college. Before that I was busy keeping old cars and trucks running for them.
 
I should know better than to bunch all into any one group. I apologize.
I was 50 before I started collecting Rototillers as a hobby. I always liked old stuff and usually never bought new equipment for working my garden. I wanted to keep costs down and really could not afford new stuff with raising 3 boys and paying for a house.
Your younger collectors please remember your family should come first. You have plenty of time in later years to delve into your hobby.
 
earthgrinder said:
I should know better than to bunch all into any one group. I apologize.
I was 50 before I started collecting Rototillers as a hobby. I always liked old stuff and usually never bought new equipment for working my garden. I wanted to keep costs down and really could not afford new stuff with raising 3 boys and paying for a house.
Your younger collectors please remember your family should come first. You have plenty of time in later years to delve into your hobby.
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No need to apologize. It's easy to see millennials as the generation that wants hand outs and doesnt appreciate history.

My 3 kids are another reason I don't spend as much time on a lot of my hobbies. They come first for my time. I got them into fishing so I can include them into one of my hobbies.
 
Toomanytoys84 said:
No need to apologize. It's easy to see millennials as the generation that wants hand outs and doesnt appreciate history.

My 3 kids are another reason I don't spend as much time on a lot of my hobbies. They come first for my time. I got them into fishing so I can include them into one of my hobbies.
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Spending time with my two kids and wife is a big reason for me too. We also trying to improve our house , and save money for there college or whatever extended education they choose. Of course there the unexpected dieing washing machine or some other thing that usually cutting into the tractor fund lol. I try to make my project be involved in the yard/ garden mantince machines to help justify the cost too though.
 
Ky wil and Shorty, I like your priorities and thinking. I have a friend in the Rototiller hobby who was so involved that he ended up in a divorce. Plenty of time after the kids are more or less on their own to spend more time in the hobby. One thing I have learned - parenting is never completely done. The trick is to help them to a point, but as painful as it may be, they need to struggle at times. It is part of the maturing process.
 
Sadly so far my kids have shown no interest in the tractors. My son is 4, but he isn't really a hands on mechanical person. It's odd to me because he loves design, thinking about how to build stuff, how to make an "invention". He comes to me all the time with kid type ideas to make something. But he doesn't like to actually build!

I'm afraid I am raising an engineer. The bane of mechanics!
 
Toomanytoys84 said:
Sadly so far my kids have shown no interest in the tractors. My son is 4, but he isn't really a hands on mechanical person. It's odd to me because he loves design, thinking about how to build stuff, how to make an "invention". He comes to me all the time with kid type ideas to make something. But he doesn't like to actually build!

I'm afraid I am raising an engineer. The bane of mechanics!
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My son (6) dosn't have any interest in my stuff either. But my daughter(5) is my tractor buddy. One reason I like the little allis the seat big enough for both of us. She even has her own tools. The cub cadet original is hers and she'll tell anyone that lol.
 
With Ryan starting out on his own, KK having a full time job, my wife working more hours and my Mom getting older (doing well, but I still go up 3-4 nites a week) it's been a struggle to get any garage time.
I have found a few fun things this winter and early spring. (Insert flicker of hope)
The local plow day is coming up
I'm the president of our local club, so that makes the show both exciting and not. The members are Great and all chip in, but there's a lot of decisions and not everyone wants to take authority without checking with an officer.
My youngest is getting to where she.likes riding on her MF7 and she's starting to help in the garage.

I hope I have another 10 years of shows in me.so we can do it together.
 
We bought my son a Sears 725 so we could restore it for 4H/fair project, he ended up not showing interest, it sitting in the back of the barn.
He use to show interest, but is now out working and just uses the equipment. He did recently buy an old ford so he will be always working on that :thumbs:
I have noticed it seems the forums and even FB has went down in terms of traffic. I still visit MTF once in a while, one of the regulars I became friends with years ago made a post a few weeks ago, he even made the comment " no replies, a few years ago, I would have gotten 10-20 replies by now".
I don't have time to work on my projects, taking care of two houses and all my church duties. I would love to go to plow days and shows, just never have time.
 
earthgrinder said:
Absolutely! I have been using my 70's Cub Cadet 147 for years mowing my yard and blowing snow from the driveway. Also have a 100 that has a great NON_OSHA deck that is great for leaf detail in the fall. No box store Chinese equipment here.
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Yup. Made when people had common sense, didn't need the idiot proofing as much back when they built that.
 
Shotgun Wedding said:
But that isn't even a fair comparison. Can you honestly say you would say no to a brand new GT like a JD 500 or 700 series, or a Simplicity Legacy? These 40-50yr GT's back in the day were equivalent in cost in todays $. To compare a GT to a box store lawn tractor is like comparing a Kia hatchback to a F150.

Here is what I think. Newer, younger members get discouraged being told their stuff is junk. This site isnt too bad, but some are really bad. The Only Cub cadets site is horrible for that, pity is for the poor sap who has a nice XT1 Cub he bought from Home Depot with his hard earned cash, being derided by the old guys with their "old iron" GT superiority complexes. I come from a poor background, dutch immigrant parents that my dad couldn't afford a fancy GT back in the day, we cut grass with an used AMF and were proud of it, coupled with a yard sale push mower. On these GT sites on the web if my dad were still alive and asking how to replace a broken transaxle would be told to drop it in the dumpster...its junk...buy an old GT instead, blah blah blah.

Rant over
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Well the (most of) "today machines are junk" comparisons come from working on 30+ year old iron vs today's. Sure if you have to take the machine to a shop for everything then staying with something with a warranty might be the way to go, but from what I see not only in my own yard and neighborhood but all over the place, things that break so easily today even though treated like eggshells, just didn't break on the older machines, or if it did it wasn't so soon after purchase. The older stuff was built to last, while the newer ones are built to be profitable at $XX price point. Even that old AMF was a better machine than alot of what can be bought new now a days.
 
I've seen old machines broken down the same as newer stuff. Member here bent the frame on a new husqvarna and another member bent one on a Massey garden tractor.

We can all over use stuff. I've welded up 30 year old decks and 10 year old decks because mounts broke off from abuse. It bent spindles. Ect.

Abuse anything and it will break. Your tractor isnt a bull dozer.

The weakest part on new lawn tractors and new garden tractors is the transaxle. Everyone using the tuff torques especially the low end k46 makes for the weakest link in a new stuff!

I've never worried about the rear ends on gear drive Cubs or hydros...

Hopefully a lot of us are still posting here in 20 years and I can post pictures of my 2018 x570 and I bet it will still be mowing my yard and doing other chores.
 
Sure don't see many threads about fixing/using the equipment. Mostly all 'Off Topic'!
 
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