Agricat crawler model-F

[jdcrawler]

I have mounted the shifter on the back of the transmission and I have also made up the shaft that goes thru the bellhousing that will operate the throwout bearing.




The shifter can be mounted in three different positions. It is in the farthest forward position now. I won't make up the shifter rods until I know which of the three positions the shifter will be in.
I'm waiting for a Farmall Cub throwout bearing to arrive so I can't go any farther on the transmission.

While I'm waiting on parts, I have gotten out the parts for the two drive clutches on the rear axle. The clutch pads are removed from the clutch discs and the discs plates have been sandblasted.
I got on line and found new clutch pads that are the same size as what is on this crawler. They are for a bush hog mower so I have ordered 4-new clutch pads and the rivets to mount them.




The clutch disc plates have been sandblasted, primed and painted gray.




These are the rest of the parts to complete the rear axle.




These parts have been sandblasted and primed.




These are the original springs for the drive clutches. They all have become rusted, some rather badly. After cleaning them up and priming them, I have decided that I'm not going to use them.
Luckily, these are the same size as the springs that are used on stamping dies so I have ordered 8-new ones and have thrown the old ones away.




So now I'm waiting on even more parts to arrive. Meanwhile, I can still set up the rear drive system.
I've mounted the rear chain sprocket on the axle shaft and bolted it in place.




I never had the correct engine or transmission for this little crawler but I did get this right angle drive gearbox with it.
The gearbox is mounted with 4-bolts on the bottom of it. I have made up two angle iron brackets and bolted them to the bottom of the gearbox.




This way I can mount it in the crawler from above instead of having to bolt in place from under the crawler.
The gearbox is set in place and ready to have the mounting holes drilled and tapped thru the holes in the angle iron brackets.

 

[jdcrawler]

This morning when I went out to the garage and looked at the crawler, I realised right away that having the right angle gearbox down in front of the rear axle is not going to work at all.
It is sitting right in front of the two holes in the cross plate for the control rods going to the steering clutch linkage arms.




This is a photo of how the factory drive system looked. The transmission sets crosswise right behind the engine with a long chain going back to the rear axle. That leaves plenty of room for the two control levers for the steering clutches.




So I have made new mounting brackets for the gearbox and I'm moving it so it sits over the rear axle. I'm getting it all lined up here.




The gearbox is bolted in place.






Now the area is clear in front of the holes for the steering clutch arms.




Here's a side view of the crawler frame.
With the gearbox sitting above the rear axle, This will also raise the engine and transmission up higher and that will leave room underneath it for the steering clutch linkage.




The original engine sat down low inside the crawler frame. The top of the engine was lower than the seat.
I like the idea of having the engine sitting up higher in the frame.






.................. On a different subject ....................

The Farmall Cub throwout bearing was sent out on June 3ed. I checked the tracking today and it shows that it has been shipped back and forth between Cincinnati and Indianapolis 4 times.

When a package reaches Indianapolis, I usually get it delivered the next day.

The tracking shows that the package left Indianapolis at 8 AM this morning ( the 13th ).
I went down to the Post Office this afternoon and they said that there is a problem with the automatic scanning system and that the package had gone back to Cincinnati for the 5th time.
They are going to send Cincinnati an email and see if this problem can be straightened out.

Here is a copy of the tracking.

 

[CRF6179]

This morning when I went out to the garage and looked at the crawler, I realised right away that having the right angle gearbox down in front of the rear axle is not going to work at all.
It is sitting right in front of the two holes in the cross plate for the control rods going to the steering clutch linkage arms.

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This is a photo of how the factory drive system looked. The transmission sets crosswise right behind the engine with a long chain going back to the rear axle. That leaves plenty of room for the two control levers for the steering clutches.

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So I have made new mounting brackets for the gearbox and I'm moving it so it sits over the rear axle. I'm getting it all lined up here.

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The gearbox is bolted in place.

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Now the area is clear in front of the holes for the steering clutch arms.

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Here's a side view of the crawler frame.
With the gearbox sitting above the rear axle, This will also raise the engine and transmission up higher and that will leave room underneath it for the steering clutch linkage.

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The original engine sat down low inside the crawler frame. The top of the engine was lower than the seat.
I like the idea of having the engine sitting up higher in the frame.

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.................. On a different subject ....................

The Farmall Cub throwout bearing was sent out on June 3ed. I checked the tracking today and it shows that it has been shipped back and forth between Cincinnati and Indianapolis 4 times.

When a package reaches Indianapolis, I usually get it delivered the next day.

The tracking shows that the package left Indianapolis at 8 AM this morning ( the 13th ).
I went down to the Post Office this afternoon and they said that there is a problem with the automatic scanning system and that the package had gone back to Cincinnati for the 5th time.
They are going to send Cincinnati an email and see if this problem can be straightened out.

Here is a copy of the tracking.

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Sounds like you need to head up 65 and pick that up yourself. Or is cinncy closer?

 

[jdcrawler]

Sounds like you need to head up 65 and pick that up yourself. Or is cinncy closer?

Indy is a little closer.

 

[jdcrawler]

I should have gone to the post office and complained earlier, the package magically appeared in my mailbox today.

 

[jdcrawler]

I have made up the engine mounts and it is set down into the frame.






These are the two universal joints that I'm going to use to make the driveshaft.




The ends are cut off both pieces.




I turned down a pin with the two different diameters of the center holes in each part. This holds the two parts on center to each other and they are welded together.




I bought a pulley hub with the keyway already in it that fits onto the input shaft of the right angle gearbox. Then I made up another pin with the two different diameters on it.




This pin fits into the center hole on the U-joint.




The hub is slid onto the pin and it is clamped together and welded.



Here is the finished driveshaft.

 

[CRF6179]

I have made up the engine mounts and it is set down into the frame.

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These are the two universal joints that I'm going to use to make the driveshaft.

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The ends are cut off both pieces.

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I turned down a pin with the two different diameters of the center holes in each part. This holds the two parts on center to each other and they are welded together.

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I bought a pulley hub with the keyway already in it that fits onto the input shaft of the right angle gearbox. Then I made up another pin with the two different diameters on it.

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This pin fits into the center hole on the U-joint.

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The hub is slid onto the pin and it is clamped together and welded.
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Here is the finished driveshaft.

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Not nit picking but wondering. Your drive shaft would be the center two yokes that are welded at 90* to each other. I thought they needed to be parallel to each other not perpendicular. Just asking.

 

[jdcrawler]

Not nit picking but wondering. Your drive shaft would be the center two yokes that are welded at 90* to each other. I thought they needed to be parallel to each other not perpendicular. Just asking.

You are absolutely correct. On a regular driveshaft, the yokes need to be lined up with each other. This is called phasing or timing the driveshaft, and it can help offset the acceleration and deceleration of one joint with the other joint. This can result in equal RPM from the transmission's output to the driven axle.
However, on a driveshaft this short that will not be rotating very fast at all, it doesn't matter as long as the U-joints are still lined up with each other.
I set them at 90 degrees because it gave me more clearance to get a good weld on them.

 

[CRF6179]

You are absolutely correct. On a regular driveshaft, the yokes need to be lined up with each other. This is called phasing or timing the driveshaft, and it can help offset the acceleration and deceleration of one joint with the other joint. This can result in equal RPM from the transmission's output to the driven axle.
However, on a driveshaft this short that will not be rotating very fast at all, it doesn't matter as long as the U-joints are still lined up with each other.
I set them at 90 degrees because it gave me more clearance to get a good weld on them.

Okay. Thanks.

 

[MNGB]

Coming along nicely JD

 

[jdcrawler]

I should have the rest of the parts for putting the steering clutches together by tomorrow so today I finished cleaning up the other parts and got them all painted.






While doing that, I realised that I'm missing four angle brackets and brake pads.

In this photo of a crawler being put together by someone else, you can see the 3/8 thick by 2 inch wide brackets with brake pads fastened onto them.
There are two brackets sticking up from the floor on the inside of the round plates that clamp together with the clutch disc in between them.
When the inside plate is pulled in to release the clutch disc, it is pulled up against the two brackets on that side to stop the round plate from rotating while the other side continues to rotate and turn the crawler.

I have ordered some brake pad material from Mc Master-carr so I can make up those brackets.

 

[jdcrawler]

Drilling and countersinking the mounting holes in the clutch disc.




Installing the rivets.




The finished clutch discs.




The steering clutches are installed.




And the drive gearbox is mounted back in place.