And more junk.

WalMart handles Liberty brand overalls down this way. Light weight and wear out quick. Bomgaars handles Key and one other brand so I have been staying with Key. About twice the weight of the old Liberty. A lady that does some of my seamstress type work is always wanting old wore through the knees, etc jeans. The back of the legs never wears out, so she uses the back to patch the front. Same with overalls.
 
Yeah Roger them Liberty Bell bibs at Walmart and TSC are junk. Carol always wrapped a wash cloth around the buckles so the dryer was never a problem. The problem was the rivet snaps pulling through the cheap thin fabric, nothing you can do to prevent that.

Interesting thing I learned about denim from the Levi’s Co. Some of us dads were watching our little girls playing soccer years ago. I mentioned buying six pair of Levi’s that were on sale to work in and finding out they all fit different and had to take two pairs back.

One of the dads I knew was a pilot for DHL started laughing. He told me he flew batts of denim for Levi’s from the US to Mexico then back as pants. He said not only are they different grades of denim but they are cut and stitched at different levels for sales.

I’m not sure about now but back then Levi’s had orange tab and red tab jeans. He said don’t buy the orange they were cheap but buy the red if you want the good.
 
One cannot go by the brand name any more for fit or quality. I am not near as hard to pants or ovewralls as I used top be. Those small square bales can eat up a pair of pants in nothintg flat. Dad always taught us to use out whole body to get them square up on the 5th layer. That meant a boost with the knee and make sure you get the hook out in time.
 
The Wranglers I get seem to hold up ok. Of course I ain't slinging small squares either---LOL! Now and then I got a pair that said it was my size but didn't fit. I'm sure they are foreign made too.

That stoner I talked to on the phone about the shop furnace last week was paying more attention than I gave him credit for! The heat exchanger was delivered today! Only took 5 days! He said 10 to 12 "work" days.
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Now the problem is that it's too damm cold to bring it down and install this! I'm trying to keep stuff from freezing out there with the injured heat exchanger at work. It has been getting down just below freezing in the work bay at night. Hopefully some relief is coming.

DAC
 
MFDAC said:
Sounds like they may be going green!
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Who wants to wear green? JD maybe.
I've never worn bib's. Always thought they would be a pain when setting in a public bathroom. Rather not mop the floor with my bibs but maybe there's a trick I'm not aware of. Used to wear colored T-shirts but not much anymore. Put a pen and pencil along with the cell phone in the pocket and the shirt is all stretched out of shape.
I prefer very light weight button up shirts preferably with two pockets and lightweight carpenter pants. I think they are called rugged wear by Wrangler but not sure. They have lots of pockets. When fishing long sleeves are needed.
 
Cvans said:
Who wants to wear green? JD maybe.
I've never worn bib's. Always thought they would be a pain when setting in a public bathroom.
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When I said going green I was referring to the Daytona 500 about ready to race again after a rain delay---LOL!
I don't wear bibs out in public. I am a self-professed redneck, but I have my limits! Occasionally, if I have to run down to a convenience store a couple miles down the road I go redneck.

Cvans said:
I think they are called rugged wear by Wrangler but not sure. They have lots of pockets. When fishing long sleeves are needed.
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The jeans I get are form the Rugged Wear line too, Chris. I just keep my phone in the right front pocket. In fun I would tell the guys at work that wore those pants with pockets all over them they were wearing "purse pants"!

The kind of fishing I did was in the hills and usually wore a T-Shirt then or a flannel if it was cool. I used a fly rod or some lure and live bait fishing on streams. I could probably count on one hand how many times I fished from a boat. Biggest fish I ever caught was in a boat though, on the little lake my dad's house was on in Florida. Small lake and just paddled. Some sort of tropical fish but I don't remember what the heck he called it anymore. I was 10 or 11.

DAC
 
olcowhand said:
I've slung a few hundred thousands of hay bales in my younger days and never used hooks. Never used gloves either, but gotta say the first few jobs of the season could certainly be painful.
Today's jeans would never take the punishment the jeans back in those days could!
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Bail hook takes a lot of the work out of it once one learns how to use them. Always wore leather gloves too. I didn't really care for the sore finger blisters. Did not go good with hand milking cows. Dad always said those string was there to hold the bale together and not handles to throw them around with. Sold some bales on the ground one time. Guy would grab both strings in one hand, bale on each side and walk to the pickup with them. About every 3rd trip he would break a bale and just kick it off to the side and go on. I finally told him that once he touched a bale he bought it. Had his wife drive pickup to the bale and load one at a time after that. Ah, the good old days.
 
Everything I posted here last night and the following comments got deleted sometime this morning. Some kind of monkey business going on! I took a look on my phone while having breakfast and there were a few comments after I had posted about the thermostat I am going to try in the shop. I'm not signed in on my phone since it is too hard for me to reply anyway.

Will do it over again, and see if they disappear.

Going to try this thermostat. It wifi's to a phone but still has to be hard wired to the furnace. Some folks recommend putting it behind the furnace where the air is being pulled in. I have one good option that is not an outside wall.
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I think someone that commented asked if I have a ceiling fan. Yes there are two of them out in the work bay. Both on the same rheostat switch.
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They are running in the pic.

Had some chores to do in the house this morning. I had left the furnace running last night as it is so damm cold. Got out to the shop early afternoon and the furnace fans were running but no heat! Somehow it was still 34 out there with the almost 30 below outside overnight temps. It was flashing a high limit shutdown code. Finally figured out the two sensors by the burners can be reset after watching a couple Youtube videos.

It is working again, but I suspect that it just has to run too long to get the temp up to 45 which is as low as the old thermostat will go. Will just shut it down tonight and hope for the best. It's supposed to warm up a lot by the weekend!

DAC
 
When we put our new furnace in a couple years ago the installer recommended the thermostat be put in the hall off the living room so that is where it went. Just across the hall from where the old one was. Using the open stairway to the basement as the cold air return. I did put in a programable thermostat, 62° at night and 68° from 6 am to 9 pm.
 
Honeywell (and probably other manufacturers) do offer a low temperature thermostat for heating that is designed to keep an area just above freezing - goes down to about 35°F. Here is a link if you are interested - Honeywell Home CT50K Low Temperature Non-Programmable Thermostat for Garage
In my dad's shop he had an old mercury switch style that had a range of about 35° to 55°F which allowed the building to drop down at night as it was not overly well insulated. I used two used regular older style thermostats I got from a furnace person - they were equipped with the mercury style switch in another shop - they were wired in parallel with a switch so that one thermostat could be switched out of the circuit so it did not "call for heat". The other one was readjusted with a tiny wrench I borrowed from the furnace installer so that it would keep the room at about 35°F. Then when I wanted to warm the room up I just turned the switch on which caused the "normal" thermostat to be switched into the circuit and it controlled the temperature and when I was done I would turn the switch off again so the "adjusted" thermostat controlled the temperature.
 
chieffan said:
When we put our new furnace in a couple years ago the installer recommended the thermostat be put in the hall off the living room so that is where it went. Just across the hall from where the old one was. Using the open stairway to the basement as the cold air return. I did put in a programable thermostat, 62° at night and 68° from 6 am to 9 pm.
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As close as I can get to a cold air return for a shop furnace would be somewhere behind it, Rog. You and Carolyn are a lot tougher than I am---LOL! My nose would run so bad at 62* that I would have to keep Kleenex in my hand constantly and be able to reach for new ones! 68 is as low as I can take at night and prefer around 72 during the day in the house. Out in the shop I do keep it cooler, but working on things is a bit different than sitting and watching TV or trying to sleep. If I am applying lettering or even producing stickers I definitely have to have things at least 70. That stuff don't mind the cold once installed, but it doesn't apply well any colder.

29 Chev said:
Honeywell (and probably other manufacturers) do offer a low temperature thermostat for heating that is designed to keep an area just above freezing - goes down to about 35°F. Here is a link if you are interested - Honeywell Home CT50K Low Temperature Non-Programmable Thermostat for Garage
In my dad's shop he had an old mercury switch style that had a range of about 35° to 55°F which allowed the building to drop down at night as it was not overly well insulated. I used two used regular older style thermostats I got from a furnace person - they were equipped with the mercury style switch in another shop - they were wired in parallel with a switch so that one thermostat could be switched out of the circuit so it did not "call for heat". The other one was readjusted with a tiny wrench I borrowed from the furnace installer so that it would keep the room at about 35°F. Then when I wanted to warm the room up I just turned the switch on which caused the "normal" thermostat to be switched into the circuit and it controlled the temperature and when I was done I would turn the switch off again so the "adjusted" thermostat controlled the temperature.
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This thermostat is supposed to be able to be set as low as 40F, Stew. I like to keep the shop 45-50F all the time, until I want it warmer. It takes way to long to warm up all the big pieces iron out there, and the concrete slab stays like a reefer plate in a refrigerated truck. I want to try this programmable thermostat that has laying around the shop for several years. Then I will probably put a more modern one in the house if I get this one working right. I have good wifi in the shop now so hopefully this 9 year old but brand new thermostat works!

This place to the right of that old Coke sign is about the only place I can put the new thermostat. The wall to the left is an exterior wall. Yeah the air compressor can give it some false temps but it doesn't run much during heating season.
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